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		<title>By: Susan Tiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Mater, it is good to know that you also visited Font de Gaume! I wish you a safe flight home Wednesday and I&#039;ll look forward to your thoughts on fashion theory :-).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mater, it is good to know that you also visited Font de Gaume! I wish you a safe flight home Wednesday and I&#8217;ll look forward to your thoughts on fashion theory :-).</p>
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		<title>By: materfamilias</title>
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		<dc:creator>materfamilias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve bookmarked this fascinating post to read once I&#039;m settled back home -- for now, I&#039;ll just quickly say that I made it to the Font de Gaume cave over 20 years ago.  I didn&#039;t have your good fortune as there was quite a crowd along with, but I nonetheless remember the experience as spiritual and powerful.  I&#039;hope to find some time soon to see how you connect that experience with fashion and design.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve bookmarked this fascinating post to read once I&#8217;m settled back home &#8212; for now, I&#8217;ll just quickly say that I made it to the Font de Gaume cave over 20 years ago.  I didn&#8217;t have your good fortune as there was quite a crowd along with, but I nonetheless remember the experience as spiritual and powerful.  I&#8217;hope to find some time soon to see how you connect that experience with fashion and design.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Tiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa, I should have been more clear in stating my underlying assumptions, one of which is that all persons working out their coordinate position in the above graph are engaged in the social project -- want to fit in and do so appropriately, although the concept of what is appropriate seems to be a moving target!

Your comment makes me realize that I defined the Artistic Expression axis too narrowly. It really should be labeled Creativity/Aesthetics to reference both aspects of how the individual contributes to personal style, through artistic expression &lt;em&gt;and &lt;/em&gt;design and aesthetics.

We both know I&#039;ve got ascetic tendencies, for some good and maybe not so good reasons, so I&#039;m trying very hard to keep an open mind as I explore this foreign but interesting land of style. 

I keep reading. My neighbor, a woman of style (LOVE her), loaned me her book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Power-Style-Annette-Tapert/dp/0517585685&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Power of Style&lt;/a&gt; by Annette Tapert and Diana Edkins and I&#039;m really enjoying the personal stories of these style icons. So far I&#039;ve learned about Rita Lydig, Elsie de Wolfe, Millicent Rogers, Daisy Fellowes and Wallis Simpson, and I must say, rivalry and desire doesn&#039;t seem too far off point in describing most of these women. Except for Millicent Rogers. She was cultured -- loved design and aesthetics -- and so far I like her the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, I should have been more clear in stating my underlying assumptions, one of which is that all persons working out their coordinate position in the above graph are engaged in the social project &#8212; want to fit in and do so appropriately, although the concept of what is appropriate seems to be a moving target!</p>
<p>Your comment makes me realize that I defined the Artistic Expression axis too narrowly. It really should be labeled Creativity/Aesthetics to reference both aspects of how the individual contributes to personal style, through artistic expression <em>and </em>design and aesthetics.</p>
<p>We both know I&#8217;ve got ascetic tendencies, for some good and maybe not so good reasons, so I&#8217;m trying very hard to keep an open mind as I explore this foreign but interesting land of style. </p>
<p>I keep reading. My neighbor, a woman of style (LOVE her), loaned me her book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Power-Style-Annette-Tapert/dp/0517585685" rel="nofollow">The Power of Style</a> by Annette Tapert and Diana Edkins and I&#8217;m really enjoying the personal stories of these style icons. So far I&#8217;ve learned about Rita Lydig, Elsie de Wolfe, Millicent Rogers, Daisy Fellowes and Wallis Simpson, and I must say, rivalry and desire doesn&#8217;t seem too far off point in describing most of these women. Except for Millicent Rogers. She was cultured &#8212; loved design and aesthetics &#8212; and so far I like her the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 01:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to think of fashion as solely competitive and hierarchical. In institutions, church, state, corporate, I concede. But humans in their day to lives have as much need to belong as they have will to dominate. So I would have to add social context, belonging, and the desire to be appropriate to any theory of fashion across the spectrum.

In addition, those of us who can&#039;t help but care a lot about design and an aesthetic, we want to express that aesthetic itself. I don&#039;t think of it as self-expression, because I don&#039;t expect the aesthetic to necessarily tell anyone much about my emotional or spiritual self. But it will tell people what visual system appeals to me. So perhaps add aesthetics, for some of us.

I truly don&#039;t believe it has to be all painful and difficult. I see that it is, often, what to wear, personal style, etc. But it&#039;s not written in stone, as a dicta, that it be so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to think of fashion as solely competitive and hierarchical. In institutions, church, state, corporate, I concede. But humans in their day to lives have as much need to belong as they have will to dominate. So I would have to add social context, belonging, and the desire to be appropriate to any theory of fashion across the spectrum.</p>
<p>In addition, those of us who can&#8217;t help but care a lot about design and an aesthetic, we want to express that aesthetic itself. I don&#8217;t think of it as self-expression, because I don&#8217;t expect the aesthetic to necessarily tell anyone much about my emotional or spiritual self. But it will tell people what visual system appeals to me. So perhaps add aesthetics, for some of us.</p>
<p>I truly don&#8217;t believe it has to be all painful and difficult. I see that it is, often, what to wear, personal style, etc. But it&#8217;s not written in stone, as a dicta, that it be so.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Tiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rose, yes, there is probably abundant privilege in the life of Steve Jobs as well as the lives of all successful high-tech entrepreneurs. 

I do love a good ham, but these days we&#039;re on the vegan diet, Martin to fix his gout without medication and me in solidarity. He&#039;s successfully dropped the uric acid from 14.5 to 7, nearly normal! So the diet sacrifice seems worth it.

Happy Easter!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rose, yes, there is probably abundant privilege in the life of Steve Jobs as well as the lives of all successful high-tech entrepreneurs. </p>
<p>I do love a good ham, but these days we&#8217;re on the vegan diet, Martin to fix his gout without medication and me in solidarity. He&#8217;s successfully dropped the uric acid from 14.5 to 7, nearly normal! So the diet sacrifice seems worth it.</p>
<p>Happy Easter!</p>
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		<title>By: RoseAG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoseAG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect if you push past the black turtleneck and the jeans you&#039;ll find privilege in Steve Job&#039;s life.  

Have a nice Easter break.  If it were me I&#039;d have a big ham sitting in my fridge to be creating meals for all those choir nights and company dinners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect if you push past the black turtleneck and the jeans you&#8217;ll find privilege in Steve Job&#8217;s life.  </p>
<p>Have a nice Easter break.  If it were me I&#8217;d have a big ham sitting in my fridge to be creating meals for all those choir nights and company dinners.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Tiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did think of plotting other well known people but I didn&#039;t want to get in trouble :-). I&#039;m relieved to know that you don&#039;t think my graph is crazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did think of plotting other well known people but I didn&#8217;t want to get in trouble :-). I&#8217;m relieved to know that you don&#8217;t think my graph is crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: WendyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>WendyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely think fashion has a lot to do with personal expression as well as status. More importantly, I laughed out loud over your graph, particularly the Steve Jobs positioning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely think fashion has a lot to do with personal expression as well as status. More importantly, I laughed out loud over your graph, particularly the Steve Jobs positioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Tiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Tiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Pat, that &#039;s a really good point about the &quot;uniform&quot; look freeing up time. Time is what I want more of in life! 

I know what you mean about priestly vestments. They are gorgeous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pat, that &#8216;s a really good point about the &#8220;uniform&#8221; look freeing up time. Time is what I want more of in life! </p>
<p>I know what you mean about priestly vestments. They are gorgeous.</p>
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		<title>By: savvysavingbytes</title>
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		<dc:creator>savvysavingbytes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loved looking at those cave paintings. Judging from the elegant line and style of one those artists, they clearly had a DaVinci among them.

Now that I think of it I imitated clothing styles during my school and early working years when I wanted to be part of exalted groups. These days all that&#039;s over. Fashion doesn&#039;t much interest me anymore. I&#039;m not quite at the uniform stage although I&#039;m heading there pretty fast.

Also, I think Jobs wears his uniform for the reasons many do: they just don&#039;t want to waste their time thinking about what to wear. They&#039;ve got lots more fun and important things to do.

Just remembered: growing up, a good part of my time during Sunday Mass was spent studying and admiring the priest&#039;s gorgeous robes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved looking at those cave paintings. Judging from the elegant line and style of one those artists, they clearly had a DaVinci among them.</p>
<p>Now that I think of it I imitated clothing styles during my school and early working years when I wanted to be part of exalted groups. These days all that&#8217;s over. Fashion doesn&#8217;t much interest me anymore. I&#8217;m not quite at the uniform stage although I&#8217;m heading there pretty fast.</p>
<p>Also, I think Jobs wears his uniform for the reasons many do: they just don&#8217;t want to waste their time thinking about what to wear. They&#8217;ve got lots more fun and important things to do.</p>
<p>Just remembered: growing up, a good part of my time during Sunday Mass was spent studying and admiring the priest&#8217;s gorgeous robes.</p>
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